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  • ouked 3 hours ago
  • 2b3a51 35 minutes ago
    > "He noticed that the scales were overlapping one another in different directions — in one, they overlapped on top of each other in a clockwise pattern, and the other was in reverse. The fresh eyes of a person who hadn’t been staring at Paulinella for hours identified a curious, distinctive trait. Were they looking at two different species?"

    I found it reassuring that sketching what you see down the microscope is still part of a scientific practice. Also the 'fresh eyes' could perhaps point the way to a more collegiate organisation of research.

  • staplung 1 hour ago
    If you have a decent microscope and want to work on some citizen science that's directly related to the research in this article: https://www.vanettenlab.org/paulinella-consortium
    • deadbabe 1 minute ago
      What is a “decent microscope”?
  • Bayes7 8 minutes ago
    >"The first species of Paulinella was discovered on Dec. 24, 1894, in the sediments of a backwater of the Rhine River by the German biologist Robert Lauterborn. He named the genus after his stepmother, Pauline."

    How can they say this without providing more background?

  • grantsucceeded 1 hour ago
    this revives my recurring desire to get a good USB microscope. Good, to me, in this context:

    a few hundred bucks

    able to look at microbes

    also able to look at less micro level stuff, like maybe the thing i'm trying to solder or fix

    is it wrong to solicit comments/recommendations here?

    • pppone 4 minutes ago
      Some random ones I've encountered (less for PCB work though):

      - https://openflexure.org/

      - https://www.eurekamicroscope.com/

    • PhilipRoman 9 minutes ago
      I'm in the process of building one myself. Take what I'm saying with a massive grain of salt, but I believe you basically need three things - objective, tube lens and a camera module.

      If I were you, I would probably buy a normal microscope that supports a microscope camera attachment, instead of specifically looking for USB microscope. There is a lot of misleading marketing around USB microscopes, a lot of them are literally just doing digital zooming in (I have a 30€ "1000x" microscope from Amazon which is nice for soldering and such things, but these fake microscopes appear even at higher price ranges). Treat anything >1000x for light-based microscopes as a red flag.

    • staplung 39 minutes ago
      Perhaps better to ask here: https://www.reddit.com/r/microscopy/. They get that question a lot.
  • tpict 2 hours ago
    I wonder what the author thinks steampunk means
    • dekhn 2 hours ago
      Right- that's really just a version of a worm pick. I use similar tools (including a mouth pipette... remember kids, in chemistry: don't pipette by mouth, in biology: oops I think I just inhaled something!) working with tardigrade. If it was steampunk there would be some sort of goggles, leather, gears, and a tincture of laudunum.
  • Beijinger 1 hour ago
  • GTP 2 hours ago
    I have an idea on how life could originate in a motel room :D
    • nate 7 minutes ago
      I came here looking for this :) like someone has to be making this joke right. Or another direction of making the connection that there must be some life growing from the filth in a motel room
  • danso 3 hours ago
    • Barbing 2 hours ago
      Thank you! (Also, haven’t seen this kind of gift link that has the little login requirement, suppose they’re looking to strike a better balance.)
    • lokeshramchand 1 hour ago
      Thank you!
  • alpineman 2 hours ago
    All they needed was a blue UV light
  • realo 51 minutes ago
    Quoting the article:

    "The team — brought together, in part, by disruptions and despair over the Trump administration’s freezes to federal science funding — then made an exciting discovery."

    Apparently this is the new way of life for Scientists under the Trump regime.

    Sad.

  • sva_ 1 hour ago
    I don't know what I should've expected, but I am a bit disappointed that they in fact did not find these organisms in the motel room.
  • oofbey 2 hours ago
    Why did they work in a motel room? The article kinda implies it had something to do with Trump’s funding cuts, but unless I missed something the connection wasn’t made explicit.
    • dekhn 2 hours ago
      I think it's mainly to be close to the sample collection area while also having a place to do microscopy in semi-privacy. Looking at their equipment, I think they bought everything out of pocket and pay for the hotel on their own.
    • chrisandchris 59 minutes ago
      > The team — brought together, in part, by disruptions and despair over the Trump administration’s freezes to federal science funding — [...]
      • specproc 12 minutes ago
        I dunno about the states, but in most parts of the UK, it's considerably cheaper than 80 dollars a day to rent a small workspace.
  • m3kw9 3 hours ago
    I thought they use built up gunk from years in the bathroom to discover new species, so they choose a cheap motel.
  • sevenart 3 hours ago
    non-paywall (perm): https://archive.ph/QpBF1
  • mlkih 14 minutes ago
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  • kstrauser 3 hours ago
    Super cool, and I bet housekeeping loved tidying up after turning a motel room into a street biology lab. Honestly, I think I’d prefer to stay in a room previously used to cook meth.
    • _qua 3 hours ago
      You think pond water is the worst thing an $80 motel room has seen?
      • kstrauser 3 hours ago
        > Jugs of brackish water lined the walls. Buckets overflowed with hunks of marsh grass.

        I don’t know, that goes a little above and beyond IMO. One typically doesn’t do science in a house-type setting, for many of the same reasons you don’t carpet a bathroom.

        • Brybry 3 hours ago
          Probably poetic license. You can look at the pictures and see everything looks very clean.

          The jugs are sealed. We can't see any "overflowing" buckets. Looking at some water samples under a microscope is not really that messy.

        • subscribed 3 hours ago
          > for many of the same reasons you don’t carpet a bathroom

          For some reason this is a commonplace in the UK.

          Yeah....

          • stephbook 3 hours ago
            I had a colleague who walked the tiled floor in front of pissoirs in socks..
            • subscribed 2 hours ago
              Ugh, I just realised my imagination is too good :)
        • pengaru 2 hours ago
          > for many of the same reasons you don’t carpet a bathroom.

          someone should inform the orange POTUS of this: https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/did-donald-trump-j...

  • codedokode 1 hour ago
    So $80 is considered a "cheap room"? How is a person supposed to earn $80 a day to pay for it and have something left?

    Also, cells can have scales? Amazing.

    • onlyrealcuzzo 1 hour ago
      It takes ~30 minutes to turn around a nightly hotel room, front desk check-in and other labor can easily make that >1h of labor per room per day.

      Even in the budget industry, your nightly utility usage comes close to $10, consumables are $3+.

      Hotel stays are typically taxed higher than typical sales tax.

      Once you add that in, real estate taxes, and any corporate taxes - you're getting close to the $50 price point...

      That's before you factor in the cost of maintaining the building, or the financing to buy the building itself (or any profit).

      Are we supposed to live in a world where everyone's entitled to be able to stay in hotel rooms for 1 hour of minimum wage labor? Because, until we have far more automation, I don't see how that makes any possible sense.

    • 650REDHAIR 1 hour ago
      $80/day is a cheap room in most of the US and Canada.

      My standards for hotel rooms on road trips are quite low and I will call the crappy motels to avoid the bloated .com booking rates and it’s not very often I find even 1 star hotels under $80/day after taxes.

    • mkirsten 1 hour ago
      Have you stayed at hotels? Most people that work don’t stay at hotels and pay the hotel out of pocket.
      • codedokode 1 hour ago
        I am not from US and with that money I could rent a tiny apartment for 2-3 days. However, I prefer cheaper accomodation. $80 is super expensive if you have no other place to live.
        • thatfrenchguy 4 minutes ago
          Yeah salaries in the US are higher in nominal terms
        • yencabulator 5 minutes ago
          In most places, you don't pay the day rate for long stays.
        • WalterGR 9 minutes ago
          From my reading of the article, my understanding is that they’re doing science in the hotel room, not living there long-term.
        • physicalecon 1 hour ago
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