How Is Music Possible

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35 points | by rafaelc 2 hours ago

10 comments

  • recursive 39 minutes ago
    Otherwise unspecified "major chords" are generally assumed to be major triads, and thus not tetrachords at all, which require four notes. I tried finding this section in the sources, but I couldn't find it. I wonder what's meant by this. Could it really mean that major triads are less pleasant than all tetrachords? That's surprising, since many tetrachords contain major triads.

    > Major chords (which is what people who grew up hearing Western music tend to rate as positive), the Kalash instead describe as “strange,” rating them as less pleasant to listen to than “the most dissonant [of] all the possible tetrachords possible within the octave”.

  • rguzman 45 minutes ago
    i, like the author, tend to find the theories of how/why music works unsatisfactory. in a sense, it has to be some kind of side-effect of capabilities that evolved via natural selection, but i find explanations for visual art operating that way more satisfying than music operating that way. music seems to be better analogized to the written word. we can engage with the written word "visually" (eg graffiti) but most of the time we don't quite do that -- what we do (stare at pieces of paper with funny squiggles in them and hallucinate) is far more abstract. music seems to be like that, too.
    • CGMthrowaway 20 minutes ago
      Why is a murmuration of starlings so pleasing to watch?
  • mintflow 1 hour ago
    The article reminds me a Chinese music which strike me one day when I just find it on youtube music

    Cann't say something more, but it just made me a bit sad, and feel some nostalgia, and find how times flies over the years

    Share the link below:

    https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=sD115Li2Jl8&si=reD6a3Cjvt3...

    • amatecha 13 minutes ago
      That was really good! Thanks for sharing. <3
  • hypertexthero 41 minutes ago
    Good article.

    Bridge of Waves: What music is and how listening to it changes the world, by W.A. Mathieu, is a sound book about how music is possible.

  • virgil_disgr4ce 29 minutes ago
    This reminds me of when I did ketamine therapy. For some reason, the ONLY tether to reality that stayed intact during the k-hole was the ambient drones/loops coming through the headphones. Even during the experience I found this insane. Why should that one particular sense be carried through when everything else was left so far behind as to feel incomprehensibly alien?
  • cachius 1 hour ago
    Next time stop the car and only listen
    • munificent 11 minutes ago
      Maybe the engine and the wind is an important part of the sonic experience.
  • viccis 1 hour ago
    If you found Schopenhauer's thoughts on it interesting, I'd recommend giving The Birth of Tragedy a read to see where a young Nietzsche took it, relating it to poetry.
  • wry_discontent 1 hour ago
    This was really interesting to read as a person who doesn't experience music deeply.
    • dumberquestions 1 hour ago
      I think not being able to experience music as much as I do would be akin to losing an entire sense.
      • colordrops 1 hour ago
        For real, it's about the only thing that reliably causes ego dissolution and bliss for me. And I've spent decades with various meditation practices. Nothing beats music.
        • saghm 53 minutes ago
          I have no clue how common an experience this is, but I quite literally get goosebumps when listening to music sometimes if it inspires strong enough emotion for me. I mentioned this to my friend who I played in a band with once, and later when we were listening to something I really liked I held up my arm to show him, and he was shocked because I guess he thought I did not mean literally literally. The hair on my arms genuinely stands up at the end and produces goosebumps purely because of what I feel when listening to music that resonates strongly enough with me; some sections of some songs produce it fairly reliably if I haven't listened to it recently.
          • hatthew 35 minutes ago
            • saghm 11 minutes ago
              TIL! Thanks for the reference
          • intrikate 36 minutes ago
            This happens to me all the time! I'll be in the car with my wife and a song I really like will come up, and the section hits and I'll say "Goosebumps!" and show her my arm. She also did not believe me until I physically showed her.

            They are often songs that are attached to important emotional events in my life, sure, but there are also songs that come out of nowhere and still give me goosebumps. Some things are just that moving!

      • wry_discontent 45 minutes ago
        It can feel like that sometimes.

        It's weird cause there's this whole set of things (favorite bands/live shows/albums/etc) that most people are really into and care a lot about and it's a big absence in my life.

  • ai-bot-12bleep4 1 hour ago
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  • asphodele 55 minutes ago
    Trying to explain why music is magical risks killing it with words. A lot of things are best left unspoken.
    • embedding-shape 11 minutes ago
      Some people find beauty in the explanations and understanding too, Feynman being a very famous example of this.
    • virgil_disgr4ce 31 minutes ago
      Explain how anything could in any way "kill music."